{"id":14500,"date":"2016-11-29T16:07:22","date_gmt":"2016-11-29T22:07:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prensalibre-com-develop.go-vip.co\/guatevision\/?p=14500"},"modified":"2016-11-29T16:08:48","modified_gmt":"2016-11-29T22:08:48","slug":"piensan-thelama-ivan-elgrandebate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prensalibre-com-develop.go-vip.co\/guatevision\/historico\/piensan-thelama-ivan-elgrandebate","title":{"rendered":"Esto piensan Thelma e Iv\u00e1n de #ElGranDebate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Las Reformas Constitucionales en las que se promueven cambios al sector justicia pasaron a la fase de aprobaci\u00f3n por parte del Congreso de la Rep\u00fablica.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">La sesi\u00f3n de el d\u00eda de ayer se desarrollo de forma extraordinaria donde el actual presidente del congreso, le\u00eda los\u00a0nombres de diputados que estaban presentes en el hemiciclo sin marcar\u00a0asistencia.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Mientras que algunos diputados tomaban\u00a0la palabra para discutir\u00a0sobre las reformas constitucionales.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Los diputados que se pronunciaron:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Amilcar Pop\u00a0<\/strong>sostiene que lo ocurrido en Alta Verapaz no fue justicia ancestral<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Carlos Chavarr\u00eda<\/strong> se opone a la forma en que est\u00e1 redactado el pluralismo jur\u00eddico.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Galdamez<\/strong> pide respeto para los congresistas. Y se\u00f1ala que Taracena viola normas constitucionales.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Oliverio Garcia<\/strong> asegura que la reforma constitucional del 93 fue presionada.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Los 127 diputados en el hemiciclo.\u00bf continuaron con la discusi\u00f3n en tercer debate de las reformas constitucionales por m\u00e1s de dos hora sin sin entrar a votar por\u00a0los art\u00edculos.<\/p>\n<p>Por lo que la Junta Directiva\u00a0decidi\u00f3 no dar la palabra a m\u00e1s diputados y llama a votaci\u00f3n del tercer debate de las reformas constitucionales.<\/p>\n<p>Representantes de <strong>FCN, MR, UCN y L\u00edder no votaron.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Los primeros dos art\u00edculos de las reformas constitucionales relacionadas al antejuicio no fueron aprobados.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/prensalibre-com-develop.go-vip.co\/guatevision\/lo-ultimo\/demandan-reformas-constitucionales\/\" target=\"_blank\">Protestas en el Congreso demandan aprobaci\u00f3n de Reformas Constitucionales<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>El tercero gener\u00f3 una gran discusi\u00f3n, \u00a0donde nuevamente los diputados de FCN se resisten a votar por art\u00edculo y Taracena se\u00f1ala que el Presidente Morales est\u00e1 a favor de las reformas.<\/p>\n<p>El presidente del Congreso pide a FCN que haga caso al comandante general del ej\u00e9rcito (Jimmy Morales) y voten por pluralismo jur\u00eddico.<\/p>\n<p>Finalmente se perdi\u00f3 la votaci\u00f3n a la \u00a0enmienda al art 3 y \u00a0la Junta Directiva verifica qu\u00f3rum paraa la sesi\u00f3n por falta de diputados.<\/p>\n<h3>A partir de lo sucedido, estos fueron los comentarios de Thelma Aldana e Iv\u00e1n Velazquez:<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8220;Lo del antejuicio era de esperarse&#8221; dice Ivan Velasquez respecto a la no aprobaci\u00f3n del art\u00edculo. #ElGranDebate<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8220;Lo de la justicia ind\u00edgena a\u00fan podr\u00eda pasar&#8221; se\u00f1ala Velasquez #ElGranDebate<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Thelma Aldana: &#8220;Enfadada no, frustrada si, bastante&#8221; respecto a las reformas constitucionales #ElGranDebate<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">#ElGranDebate Ivan Vel\u00e1squez: &#8220;estamos tratando de colaborar con un pa\u00eds&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Es necesario que los magistrados sepan a que van, se\u00f1ala @Ivan_Velasquez_ un d\u00eda antes de asumir no saben ni que sala le toca.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8220;La @CICIGgt es llamada por el Estado de Guatemala para la desarticulaci\u00f3n de estructuras criminales&#8221; se\u00f1ala @Ivan_Velasquez_<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8220;Hay que iniciar por constituir un ente que vele por una verdadera carrera judicial&#8221;. 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